Therefore, a slogan that was popular some years back: “Jesus yes, Church no”, is totally inconceivable with the intention of Christ. This individualistically chosen Jesus is an imaginary Jesus. We cannot have Jesus without the reality he created and in which he communicates himself. Between the Son of God-made-flesh and his Church there is a profound, unbreakable and mysterious continuity by which Christ is present today in his people. He is always contemporary with us, he is always contemporary with the Church, built on the foundation of the Apostles and alive in the succession of the Apostles. And his very presence in the community, in which he himself is always with us, is the reason for our joy.
Agree?
Anyone remember a religious leader talking about the “heresy” of individual salvation lately? You might be surprised how difficult it can be to continue to affirm that Jesus is saving sinners as individuals, not dispensing salvation to a group through a church.
Agree that when an individual “chooses” Jesus and not the church it’s an “imaginary” Jesus? Agree that Christ’s way of being present in the world is the church? There’s plenty for this collective-resisting Protestant to talk about, but I’m mostly interested in the papal swing at the well-known fat pitch “Jesus, Yes; the Church, No.”
“Jesus, Yes; the Church, No” has been around for a long time. It makes a good sign. Sounds good as a cheer.Continue reading “Jesus- Yes; Church- No? Maybe.”
For beginners,
From Michael Patton at Reclaiming the Mind: Reasons to start The Theology Program:
For beginners, 
This week: Liturgy as outreach and anchor. Are we all done in ministry after age 50? Becoming better students of one another.
A reader has sent along an order of service from a shared worship gathering of two Protestant churches, and you can see many of the elements we are discussing.