NOTE: I asked our friend, Wenatchee the Hatchet, to update us on one of last year’s scandals involving the discipline process at Mars Hill Church. You may recall that we used this situation as a basis for discussion last year, and then decided to leave further discussion to others who were better informed. (See “MPT Posts on Church Discipline — And I Suggest a Better Way,” “Thoughts on Church Discipline and Relational Wisdom,” and “Grace Means Saying, ‘I’m Sorry.'”
I also encourage you to check out his riff on Martha’s post on the abuse scandals in the Roman Catholic Church, in which he applies her observations that there were cultural factors contributing to the problems in Ireland and helps us see some of the cultural factors affecting Mars Hill and other Neo-Reformed bastions that provide context for their scandals.
Make sure you read this carefully. WTH has some extremely important things to say, not just about Mars Hill and their shortcomings, but also about the biases and failures of the Christian blogosphere and other Mars Hill critics. I thank him for his wise and balanced approach.
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In early 2012 Mars Hill Church in Seattle made headlines over the disciplinary procedures made in the case of former church member Andrew Lamb. Andrew’s story was shared by Matthew Paul Turner and told a story of a young man who was dating a pastor’s daughter, engaged in behavior he regretted, confessed the behavior to his girlfriend, and the confession catalyzed the gears of the Mars Hill disciplinary apparatus. Along the way Andrew confessed that he and the pastor’s daughter who was his girlfriend at the time were in a physical relationship. The disciplinary process Lamb underwent involved many meetings and a lot of correspondence to which we were not made privy but the culminating escalation letter posted to The City discussing Andrew’s departure from Mars Hill while under member discipline was posted by Matthew Paul Turner.
The subsequent controversy that erupted made enough news to get covered in Seattle by local newspaper The Stranger, by a number of bloggers, and by Slate. While there are many important details and subjects that can be discussed about Andrew Lamb’s case (such as that he finally identified himself to the public this year) the two most salient issues to discuss a year later can be summed up in two questions. How could we know whether or not Andrew’s story was plausible or true? Why did nearly everyone who was for or against Mars Hill already display no interest in addressing the veracity of Andrew’s story once Matthew Paul Turner put it on his blog?
Where the first question is concerned Andrew Lamb identified himself publicly earlier this year. More than sufficient information was available on the internet to identify the names of other parties involved on the basis of social and broadcast media content that was available even before Andrew became a subject of Mars Hill Church discipline. For those with the patience to read about that “A Confluence of Situations” is available to read at Wenatchee The Hatchet. The most basic details of Andrew’s story were very specific. He was a security volunteer at Ballard, was in love with and dating a pastor’s daughter there, and the daughter had a stepfather. This permitted the identification of at least four parties involved in Andrew’s case if a person could go through publicly available information provided by Mars Hill and associates over the last nine years.
The problem with doing that was that in early 2012 Mars Hill had embarked on a massive information purge that removed basic information about Mars Hill staff and families from all publicly viewable websites. Even information that had been available on The City for members may have been amended for all we do and don’t know. When Mars Hill PR said that they regretted that bloggers and journalists did not contact them to confirm the facts about Andrew’s case this was just that, public relations. Had Mars Hill not undertaken a massive information purge no one in the press would have needed to bother finding out whether or not Andrew’s story was reliable because they could have worked out which divorced-then-remarried pastor had a stepdaughter who could have been involved with Andrew. Mars Hill’s public response seemed insincere precisely because they presented themselves as beleagured by bloggers and journalists who didn’t want to find out the facts while the church was taking significnat measures to prevent basic details of Andrew’s story from being investigated.
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