Another Look: A Journey…to Wonder

Starry Night, Van Gogh

First posted August 24, 2010

I have spent my adult life primarily in Bible-believing, non-denominational church settings.

I experienced a conversion during the “Jesus Movement” of the late 60’s and early 70’s.

I went forward during an invitation in a Southern Baptist church. Got dunked.

Our youth group was serious about Bible study.

We attended Bill Gothard, “Institute in Basic Youth Conflicts” seminars.

I still remember listening to the first Maranatha “Praise” album. On vinyl.

I myself wrote testimonial songs about Jesus and sang them with my guitar.

I once sang in meetings for an evangelist who wore a white belt and shoes.

I wore a wooden cross around my neck

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Open Forum — June 26, 2012

Given the following facts…

  • It is after midnight.
  • I have been working on ideas for posts for several hours but am coming up empty.
  • I just came off a week in my ministry in which I worked over 62 hours, including leading five funerals and attending at least a half dozen deaths, as well as dealing with a number of unusual and demanding patient/family situations. The wall fast approacheth once more…
  • We just concluded a long series of discussions on the subject of charismatic faith and I don’t have any more to say about that at the moment.
  • I couldn’t find anything in the archives that jumped out at me as “must reading” for today.
  • I haven’t yet gotten back to some of the reading I was doing and posting about recently (posting which I hoped to resume this week).

…I think it would be prudent for me to open the floor to you and have another Open Forum today. Here are a few suggestions to prime the pump:

  • What has been on your mind lately?
  • What questions would you like to ask your fellow IM readers?
  • What’s happening in the world (or your world in particular) that you would like to discuss?
  • How has God been leading, teaching, and helping you lately?
  • How can we pray for you or those you know? (please be discreet about details)
  • What have you seen in the world of Christian faith, churches, missions, etc., that has gotten your attention lately?

Or…whatever.

I humbly and with much exhaustion of mind and body yield the floor to my friends today.

Have a good, safe, civil, and productive discussion.

Another Look: A.W. Tozer on the Holy Spirit

“A doctrine has practical value only as far as it isprominent in our thoughts and makes a difference in our lives. By this test the doctrine of the Holy Spirit as held by evangelical Christians today has almost no practical value at all. In most Christian churches the Spirit is quite entirely overlooked. Whether He is present or absent makes no real difference to anyone. Brief reference is made to Him in the Doxology and the Benediction. Further than that He might well as not exist. So completely do we ignore Him that it is only by courtesy that we can be called Trinitarian….

“…The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of life and light and love. In His uncreated nature He is a boundless sea of fire, flowing, moving ever, performing as He moves the eternal purposes of God. Toward nature He performs one sort of work, toward the world another and toward the Church still another. And every act of His accords with the will of the Triune God. Never does He act on impulse nor move after a quick or arbitrary decision. Since He is the Spirit of the Father He feels toward His people exactly as the Father feels, so there need be on our part no sense of strangeness in His presence. He will always act like Jesus, toward sinners in compassion, toward saints in warm affection, toward human suffering in tenderest pity and love.

“It is time for us to repent, for our transgressions against the blessed Third Person have been many and much aggravated. We have bitterly mistreated Him in the house of His friends. We have crucified Him in His own temple as they crucified the Eternal Son on the hill above Jerusalem. And the nails we used were not of iron, but of the finer and more precious stuff of which human life is made. Out of our hearts we took the refined metals of will and feeling and thought, and from them we fashioned the nails of suspicion and rebellion and neglect. By unworthy thoughts about Him and unfriendly attitudes toward Him days without end.”

“The Forgotten One,”
from The Divine Conquest (or, God’s Pursuit of Man), pp. 64-75

What I Appreciate about the Charismatic Movements

I don’t want to leave our discussion of charismatic theology and practice without offering some words of appreciation for what I have gained and ways I think the church has benefited from its influence.

Again, keep in mind that my experience is primarily with the “second wave” of charismatic renewal that blossomed in the 1960’s and 70’s, primarily in Roman Catholic, mainline, and evangelical churches.

1. Charismatic Christians have been a sign of eschatological faith in the church.

I have criticized revivalistic evangelicalism in general and charismatic faith in particular as being too other-worldly. However, there is a sense in which the church is always in need of individuals and groups that challenge the church not to settle down in the spirit of this age but to radically embrace and testify to the newness of the age to come. The charismatic renewal that swelled in the 60’s and 70’s shook up the churches — and to be honest, many of them needed shaking up. The Spirit’s ministry and manifestations always function as they did on the Day of Pentecost — they force us all to say, “What is happening here?” and give opportunity for gifted proclaimers to stand up and say, “These are signs of the Messianic Age we’ve been waiting for!” This has been a regular occurence throughout church history, and many of the saints, reformers, revivalists, and missionaries we honor today challenged the church of their day with outside the box thinking and practice that implicitly or explicitly criticized the status quo and called people to wake up, for a new day was coming. Such renewed visions of Jesus and new creation have always been accompanied by a lot of silliness, overblown enthusiasm, and wild fire. What the wind and fire do is not always tame and pretty. But it bespeaks a power of exciting new possibilities.

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My Journey alongside the Spirit-filled

I have a distinctly non-Pentecostal/Charismatic/Third Wave Christian heritage. (For the sake of easier reading, these three waves of “Spirit-filled” movements will be simply called “charismatic”  in the rest of the post) The steps of my ecclesiastical journey look like this:

United Methodist (before charismatic influence) — Southern Baptist — dispensationalist Bible college — traditionally mainline Baptist church in New England — Evangelical Free Church seminary — non-denominational Bible church in a fundamentalist association — non-denominational (unofficially non-charismatic) Community church — ELCA Lutheran church.

Yet, since my journey really took off in the early 70’s during the charismatically-fueled Jesus People movement, I have witnessed the second and third waves of the charismatic movement from a close vantage point. In this post, I simply want to share some of my remembrances and reflections about what I’ve seen and experienced.

It wasn’t long after my spiritual awakening in my late teens that I became aware of Christians who were emphasizing the work of the Holy Spirit and the gift of tongues. I recall one of the first Bible studies I ever taught under the tutelage of my youth pastor. A man attended who was involved in charismatic renewal in his mainline church. We were studying John, the part about Jesus’ baptism. When we read about the Spirit descending on Jesus and the voice from heaven, he asked, “Was that when Jesus was baptized in the Spirit?” Knowing full well that he had a certain understanding of what that meant, I simply said, “Yeah, I guess,” and moved on to avoid getting off on a tangent.

My youth pastor was a gifted Bible teacher, and we used to record his studies on cassette tape. One of the fellows who attended was from California, where the Jesus movement was strong. He sent some of the tapes to his friends, who listened to them and then wrote back, “He’s pretty good. Imagine how much better he would be if he had the Spirit!” When my youth pastor heard it, he replied, “I’d rather have Jesus.” He wasn’t impressed with the emphases he was seeing in the movement.

I remember a couple of occasions when I prayed in groups with charismatic friends. The first was a Teen Challenge Bible study (David Wilkerson’s organization) that was full of people who had been saved out of the drug culture. I’ll never forget that meeting, because it was the first time I literally saw people “high on Jesus.” They were seeking ecstasy and they achieved a certain level of it. I even remember one of my friend’s eyes. They were actually bloodshot and his pupils dilated as though he had smoked several joints. When prayer ended, it was like a whole room of people awoke from a trance.

On one Easter Sunday morning, our little folk music trio that sang for Jesus opened a sunrise concert for Rez Band in a park in downtown Baltimore. The prayer circle before we went on stage was so intense, I thought we were literally going to take off and hover over the city.

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iMonk Classic: A Growing and Awkward Silence

Classic iMonk Post
by Michael Spencer
Undated

Note from CM: This is an older piece — from the early to mid-2000’s —  by Michael Spencer in which he recognizes and laments some of the changes that had taken place in the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement over the years in which he encountered it.

Like me, Michael first encountered this kind of faith when it was in the charismatic stage, infiltrating mainline and evangelical churches. He says something dramatic happened when the Third Wave expansion of non-denominational, Word-of-Faith churches and ministries took place, leading the movement into more questionable areas of teaching and practice.

The final part of the article, where Michael gives specific critiques, is reflective of that particular time and place and the things he was observing. If you are involved in these movements today, you are welcome to bring us up to date and tell us things have changed (for better or worse) with regard to his criticisms.

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A GROWING AND AWKWARD SILENCE
Things I can’t I talk about with my Pentecostal and Charismatic friends

We used to be able to talk. Over coffee, at church, and long into the night. I actually enjoyed the conversations. Sure, there were always challenges and differences, but we weren’t fighting as much as we were trying to explore a common fascination. We were pilgrims on the same road, discovering the adventure together. We both wanted to know, “What is the truth?” “What does the Bible say?” “How can we find the reality of God, and experience it every day?” We respected one another. Even if the conversation got intense there was always plenty of laughter, and we could pray together in genuine fellowship. Those prayers and conversations always left me wanting to get together again, and dig further and deeper. But this doesn’t happen much anymore, and I miss the good times we shared. Things have changed. There is a growing, awkward silence between myself and my Pentecostal/Charismatic (P/C) friends, and it’s not a good thing.

The Pentecostal/Charismatic movement has always had an uncomfortable relationship with the rest of evangelicalism. It hasn’t been easy from the first rumblings of Azusa Street to these days of TBN, Rod Parsley and Benny Hinn. Pentecostalism’s founding vision said that the mainstream church had, through neglect and rationalism, lost the power and gifts of the Holy Spirit that Christians were always intended to enjoy and manifest. Miracles and supernatural gifts were for today. Pentecost was still going on. God was speaking through prophets, in visions, and even in sending angels to do his work. The mainstream of the Christian church had said these things were ancient history, or had boxed them up in the theological attic and forgotten they were there.

Pentecostals and Charismatics made sure we remembered that Jesus cast out demons, that God spoke in visions, and that the early church spoke in tongues. They wouldn’t let us forget those pesky chapters in I Corinthians with all their mysteries. They prayed for the miracles we were too shy or doubtful to pray for. They didn’t just sing hymns that said “Hallelujah!” They said it. Loudly and often. They talked about a kind of faith that believed God would act in your behalf in the present, and that the power of the Holy Spirit to bring down walls and raise the dead was still available. The Charismatic movement brought these lively insights to the church on the corner, and even with all the resulting controversy, I count it as a good thing.

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Saturday Ramblings 6.23.12

Greetings, sports fans. Welcome to the in-mourning edition of Saturday Ramblings. Why are we in mourning? The Oklahoma City Thunder lost to the godless Miami Heat Thursday in the NBA Finals. It was hard for the Thunder to handle Miami’s “Big Three:” LeBron James, Duane Wade, and the refs. Well, there is one consolation. Soon, in some faraway, impoverished, third-world country, children will be happily clothed in “OKC Thunder—NBA Champions” t-shirts. Sigh. Shall we?

History was made this week at the Southern Baptist Convention as the denomination elected their very first African American president. Fred Luter is a former street preacher who leads a church in New Orleans. Well done, SBC.

Meanwhile, a document trying to clarify what Baptists mean by “salvation” is bringing out the “h” word among those who are debating the wording of the document. Even the—gasp!—“sinner’s prayer” is being looked at closely. This is going to take some sorting out, but again I applaud the SBC for even being willing to bring these things to the table for examination.

Have you been to a good Hutterite service lately? What? You don’t know who the Hutterites are? Well, your ignorance can now be laid to rest, thanks to the National Geographic Channel’s “American Colony: Meet the Hutterites.” You’d think this group of 59 people, clinging to their traditions, would be glad for a little face-time on the tube. But no. The higher-ups in the Hutterite sects engaged Larry Ross Communications to express their displeasure. Yep. A group you’ve never heard of is featured on a TV channel no one watches and is now complaining with a press release no one will read. Ain’t this great Saturday Ramblings fodder?

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More Like Fruit that Grows than Fire that Falls

“Signs and wonders, miracles and mighty works are certainly part of the story, yes, an essential part of the biblical story and its continuation and outworking in the Christian life; but out of context, apart from God’s revelation of himself in Jesus, severed and then removed from their organic positionings in the intricate and detailed formation of God’s people, they are simply things, miracle-commodities that are bought and sold on the religious stock exchange.”

– Eugene Peterson, Christ Plays in Ten Thousand Places

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As part of our discussion about “signs and wonders,” I want to offer some comments by way of critique. This is not meant to be a comprehensive statement of what I think about Christian groups that emphasize the Holy Spirit and supernatural gifts. That’s a book, not a blog post. Instead, I want to focus on a few fundamental reasons these theologies, movements, churches and parachurch groups ought to be critiqued.

My primary problem with the pentecostal/charismatic groups preoccupied with “signs and wonders” that I’ve been exposed to in my life may be summarized in the following two observations:

  • They have been too fixated on a limited stock of supernatural experiences and manifestations, with a tendency to define them as normative for Christian living.
  • They have not been sufficiently grounded in creation and a robust sacramental appreciation of the material and ordinary stuff of life.

These groups have therefore become vulnerable to a number of serious errors:

  • Docetism: Since God cares more about the spiritual than the material, earthly things are ultimately unimportant.
  • Escapism: Since the world is doomed, we need not take responsibility for improving it.
  • Separatism: Since the world is evil, we must avoid sympathetic contact and practice a confrontational stance.
  • Gnosticism: Since the world has no true knowledge to offer, we must seek divine insights through secret insider teachings and practices.
  • Elitism: Those who have had extraordinary experiences tend to set themselves apart from others, indicating in subtle or not-so-subtle ways that they have arrived at a higher level of spirituality.
  • Anti-institutionalism: Since a person or group’s authority is determined through allegedly experiencing God’s activity, no mere institution or outside authority figure has the right to critique them.
  • Authoritarianism: Since some show special aptitude and charisma (in all its senses), these individuals rise to an authority which no one can question because it is based on personal testimony of divine intervention.
  • Triumphalism. The theological term we learned for this in seminary was “over-realized eschatology.” In simple terms, it means claiming too much too soon — thinking that God’s future blessings are available for us to experience now. “Victory” or “dominion” becomes stressed in such a way that the N.T. teaching on suffering and service (theology of the cross) gets swallowed up by an emphasis on power and superiority (theology of glory).

Their biggest error is part and parcel of every movement that places an unbalanced emphasis on a particular area of doctrine or practice that is not at the creedal core — Jesus gets left out. The Gospel ceases to be the focal point of attention. God’s simple cruciform gifts of baptism, community, and pastoral ministry, Word and Table, lament and thanksgiving, and vocation and service become overwhelmed by an enthusiasm for spiritual experience and manifestations of divine power. The fruit of the Spirit gets swallowed up by the gifts of the Spirit (as we define them).

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To Make God Smile

Try to stay with me here.

The Beatles (remember them?) released Rubber Soul in time for Christmas, 1965. Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys said this was the best album he had ever heard and set about to create his own masterpiece. In May of 1966, Wilson (who turned 70 yesterday) and the Boys released Pet Sounds. Paul McCartney heard Pet Sounds and said it was the best album he had ever heard. This set in motion Sgt. Pepper’s, which many recognize as THE greatest album of all time.

That sent Wilson back to work on his next composition, a “teenage symphony for God.” Yet this was the beginning of Wilson’s dark night of the soul. His mental health issues and growing drug use made him a virtual recluse, and this next great album was shelved, only to be revived and finally released in 2004.

Brian Wilson wanted an album, he said, that would make God smile. I think he did it. The layers of sound make this a composition that ranks up there with some of the great symphonies of our time. And the deep and often silly lyrics can’t help to bring a smile to one’s face. Three of Wilson’s greatest songs—“Heroes and Villans,” “Surf’s Up,” and “Good Vibrations” (the latter being one of the greatest songs ever written by anyone)—are here, surrounded by tunes that encourage you to eat your vegetables and brush your teeth.

Are there great theological teachings here? Not that I can hear. But does there have to be? Brian Wilson wanted to make God smile. Is there anything greater we can do than that?

This video is 52 minutes long. Wilson leads us through Smile in its entirety. Stay with it through to the end and watch how the audience reacts to the incredible performance it witnessed. This is worth every second. Maybe, just maybe, it will make you smile as well. Enjoy.

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Are You Experienced?

Have you ever been experienced? (Jimi Hendrix, 1967)

We’ve been talking about religious experiences this week. The good, the bad, the ugly. Some want to write off all experiences as false and misleading. Others cling to miracles and touchy-feely stuff as the point of contact for their faith. Me? I’m all messed up.

I was saved in a Charismatic Baptist church. Really. Not many of those, I know. It was in 1973, the heyday of the Jesus People Movement and the Charismatic Renewal. The two met head-on in the oldest continuing Baptist church in the state of Ohio, and I met Jesus there one Saturday when I was fourteen. I heard many sermons about the supernatural acts of God and how they were still in evidence today. Faith healers came through, and there were reports of legs that were lengthened and … and come to think of it, that was the main act of healing I heard about. Short legs being lengthened. I heard of a number of these cases, some even at my church. But I never witnessed such a thing.

The gifts of the Spirit were a frequent topic from our pulpit. Well, primarily speaking in tongues. We were taught that if we did not personally have our own “prayer language,” then we weren’t filled with the Spirit. And if we weren’t filled with the Spirit, then we may possibly still be saved, but barely. So most everyone admitted they spoke in tongues, and glossolalia was common in every meeting. But I didn’t really experience the other First Corinthians gifts of the Spirit.

Not, that is, until I went to college at Oral Roberts University. Words of wisdom, words of knowledge, tongues and interpretation were commonly practiced there. Well, that is, by those in charge. Students were to watch, not participate. Unless, of course, they needed healing. Yet even as we heard of remarkable healings that took place on our campus and in crusades led by Oral Roberts and his son, Richard, I never saw a healing myself. And though I heard of financial miracles, with testimonies coming that just when someone was about to be turned out of school for lack of funds they would receive exactly the amount they needed in the morning post, I never experienced anything like that.

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