Riffs: Karen Armstrong on the Science/Religion Cul De Sac and N.T. Wright on his Differences with Piper

bad-kids-spankKaren Armstrong (pronounced Car-en, if you care) isn’t a religion scholar I’d normally recommend, but I think she makes a fairly good description of what appears to be a good bit of the situation we find ourselves in as regards the relationship of religion and science.

In short, religion hasn’t always carried around the obligation to “prove” God and his ways. As far as Christianity goes, it was a buy-in into rationalism that produced the kind of rationalistic fundamentalism that is, in my opinion, driving a lot of evangelicals into positions of increasing hostility to the findings of science. It’s common to read intelligent Christians, sometimes those who work in fields requiring technical proficiency, talking as if our default position toward science must be absolute skepticism or worse.

This morning at church, a little child sang “Jesus loves me….cause the Bible tells me so.” I wondered if that same child, wanting to be a doctor or an astronomer someday, will find out that they need to add verses like “The earth is 10,000 years old….” and “All scientists are lying….” Thankfully this isn’t true in every Christian communion. Please speak up if it’s not yours. Someone surely needs to know.Continue reading “Riffs: Karen Armstrong on the Science/Religion Cul De Sac and N.T. Wright on his Differences with Piper”

The IM Weekend Report: 07:11:09

beluIf you haven’t read my daughter’s account of her reception into the Anglican Church, you should do so. And you should add her to your RSS feed, etc. Quite an eclectic selection of posts, but all good.

New Reformation Press has some new teaching from Dr. Rosenbladt: Where In The Church Is The Gospel? Dr. Rosenbladt is one of the finest teachers anywhere, and if you are in despair about where to find the Gospel, listen to him.

I’m still in the first draft mode, but I’m basically at the half-way point in the book. I’m seeing four parts and I’ve got one more chapter and I’ll have two parts done. Writing is hard work, but I am really fortunate to have some time off work- mostly- to get accelerated writing done.

Our family is looking for a good deal on a place to stay on the beach near Charleston, South Carolina in late September. Any hot tips are welcome.Continue reading “The IM Weekend Report: 07:11:09”

Reader Request: Problems With Baptists and the Lord’s Supper

lseUPDATE: Other IM posts on this topic: Baptist Reasons For Not Celebrating the LS, Confessional Resources, Discerning the Presence of Christ, Intro to the Baptist Way. LOTS of links to Baptist material on the supper in this posts, especially the last one. If you want to study our view from the best sources, I’ve brought together a lot of material here.

A commenter in the previous post asks,

For those of us who live in pretty close knit baptist circles, give us a short run down – playing devil’s advocate- of the weaknesses you mention in the Baptist view…Other than the whole “real presence” argument, I’m not aware of any other complaints or criticisms.

This gives me an excuse to write about the Baptist and evangelical situation involving the Lord’s Supper, which I’m always glad to do.Continue reading “Reader Request: Problems With Baptists and the Lord’s Supper”

Reposted: David Chanski on the Baptist View of the Lord’s Supper (With My Thoughts)

davidchanski1Good, solid, simple, basic Baptist teaching on the Lord’s Supper is remarkably hard to come by. David Chanski from Trinity Baptist in Montvale, N.J. takes care of business in less than 40 minutes. It’s Sermonaudio and requires a two line registration, but if you don’t know the Baptist view, have never heard it presented intelligently and winsomely or if you want to shore up your own understanding of the Baptist view, this is very good work.

Chanski doesn’t make the Lord’s Supper-Passover connection, which I think is absolutely essential to rightly understanding our view. Understanding that the Lord’s Supper is a Passover meal given a new focus is quite important. We also don’t get much of the Anabaptist emphasis on covenant community, which is also important to see how Baptists understand the supper in reference to the church.

I’m turning off comments so we don’t have a debate. I know we disagree on this. I am simply making available a resource that gives the Baptist view in the hope of greater understanding and more reasonable discussion when it occurs.Continue reading “Reposted: David Chanski on the Baptist View of the Lord’s Supper (With My Thoughts)”

Alan Creech Stuff + Gangstas and Untouchables

acOur friend Alan Creech has three items of interest.

First, Alan Creech Rosaries Aids to Prayer, like Ropes and Little Beads, has a new web site. Easier to navigate, RSS feed, all the whistles and bells.

Second, Alan is doing a podcast on spiritual formation. It’s called Oremus and many of you who pray the hours, etc will enjoy it. You can subscribe via iTunes.

Finally, if you like what you see on Alan’s pages, remember that he’s doing freelance web design for a living. He’s got a very distinctive style that’s clean and elegant. He’s a real artist in this medium. Consider employing him for your site. He does personal and commercial work. You can see his work and business here.

For those of you who wonder, the Liturgical Gangstas and the Evangelical Untouchables will return as summer ends.

Thoughts on Derek Webb and Stockholm Syndrome

dwThere is and should be much discussion of Derek Webb’s new album, Stockholm Syndrome. For example, read Denny Burk’s take here, or if you are intrepid, the BHT discussion that occurred yesterday, primarily between Jared Wilson and myself.

If you haven’t heard the edgy and controversial “What Matters More,” you can hear it at Youtube. I heard that Campolo riff on comparative shock over profanity or starvation years ago, but in today’s atmosphere of prissy piety, it’s needed more than ever. Applause from me.Continue reading “Thoughts on Derek Webb and Stockholm Syndrome”

Riffs: Presiding Bishop of The Episcopal Church Jefferts-Schori Stirs The Pot

kfsWe should always be ears up when The Episcopal Church speaks of heresy. Here’s the presiding bishop of the TEC coming out swinging at the recent general convention.

The crisis of this moment has several parts, and like Episcopalians, particularly ones in Mississippi, they’re all related. The overarching connection in all of these crises has to do with the great Western heresy – that we can be saved as individuals, that any of us alone can be in right relationship with God. It’s caricatured in some quarters by insisting that salvation depends on reciting a specific verbal formula about Jesus. That individualist focus is a form of idolatry, for it puts me and my words in the place that only God can occupy, at the center of existence, as the ground of all being. That heresy is one reason for the theme of this Convention.

Not being a confessional church, this sort of thing isn’t quite as surprising as it would be if a Baptist said it, but it still underlines why the rifts in the Anglican Communion are about truly significant issues. I can spin these words to where they are better or worse, but what’s actually being said here? Let me suggest it’s something like: “Those of you forming the ACNA are no longer real Anglicans. You’ve become fundamentalist revivalists.”

You can read the whole address here.

My lowest of the low ecclesiology has the following essentials: 1) Keep the truth about Jesus safe, especially from smart Christians. 2) Constantly encourage me to be a Jesus follower in my sphere, not your church. 3) Assist me in those aspects of following Jesus that can’t be done alone, like baptism and the Lord’s Supper. 4) Know your place in God’s missional playbook and don’t act like you’re the whole show. 5) Don’t make stuff up to justify what you’re doing, then carp at me for not buying it.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

From the Writer’s Worktable: Incarnation

jcstrSome of what I’ve been writing today as I start two chapters on essential beliefs about Jesus. This is part of a section on the incarnation:

The incarnation may be the greatest stumbling block that Christianity places in the road of faith, but that stumbling block is the cornerstone of everything Christians believe about Jesus.

What does the incarnation mean for all of us? The incarnation means that God has personally crossed the unimaginable gap between himself and every human being, becoming one of us, and making it possible for every person to know God by way of the path of being human. In Jesus, God comes to us as one of us, speaks to us in human language, relates to us and draws us into relationship with himself without requiring us to be anything other than what we are: creatures of flesh and blood, human beings to whom God is a mystery and the curtain beyond our limitations is impenetrable in our experience. In Jesus, God comes to us, in life, through death, beyond the curtain and in simple words and signs.

The incarnation is the complete refutation of every human system and institution that claims to control, possess and distribute God. Whatever any church or religious leader may claim in regard to their particular access to God or control over my experience of God, the incarnation is the last word: God loves the world. God has come into the world in the form of those of us who bear God’s fingerprints and live in God’s world. God has come to all of us in Jesus. The incarnation is not owned, controlled or distributed by a church. It belongs to every human being. In Jesus, God comes to every one of us with no one else and nothing else in between. The incarnation is not being sold or downloaded. It is a gracious gift to every person everywhere, religious or not.

To make the obvious point, I don’t think think those who affirm the real presence in the Eucharist are trying to control the incarnation. But it is a danger. In my tradition, the implications of the incarnation are seldom considered, and preachers act as if they are “connecting” people to God via sermons, services, music, etc. Our denomination actually suggested that churches use this motto one year: “First Baptist Church: Connecting People to God.”

I’m deeply distressed by that mentality in general, no matter what the specifics happen to be. I hope that the incarnation gives to all of us a sacramental view of reality, no matter what our view of the specific sacraments of the church happen to be. Jesus comes to every person and for every person in the incarnation. This is a truth that is not mediated by the church. It is proclaimed and offered, but not ever controlled.

Marking 31 Years of Marriage to the Wonderful Denise

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Thirty-one years ago today Denise and I were married by the Rev. W.O. Spencer at Walnut Street Baptist Church in Owensboro, Ky. Rev. Spencer is gone to be with the Lord and the church building has burned, but our marriage has lasted and is a wonderful blessing to me.

This is my one and only girl. I love her so much and treasure all that she’s poured into our marriage when others would have given up. We have two amazing children and we are enjoying these empty nest years with God’s joy. I couldn’t imagine life without her.