The Things That Won’t Go Away

They’re back.

My sins, that is.

Just in case you need to know, my name is Michael Spencer. I’m a Christian minister who has given 33+ years of my life to telling people…

My sins, O the bliss of this glorious thought
My sins not in part, but the whole
Were nailed to the cross and I bear them no more
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul…

and other similar things about sin and forgiveness.

Unlike some people in this business, I actually believe this stuff. Like the creed teaches me, I believe in “…the forgiveness of sins…” As a reformation type Christian, I’ve got it all worked out how my sins were atoned for, taken away, tossed into the depths of the sea, put behind God’s back and so on.

The problem is that while God has forgiven me and God has put my sins on Jesus and God has replaced my sins with the righteousness of his own Son, etc., etc., some of the persons I sinned against have taken a different route.

They’ve brought my sins back up. They’ve been holding on to them for years, filed away, still affecting them and now at a particularly point of clarity in their own journey, they’ve brought those sins back to me, put them on the table and announced we have a big, big problem here.

We have a song we often sing where I work, saying that Jesus died for our sins AND for the sins that were done to us. Because I’ve sinned against many other persons, I’ve always liked that verse. Apparently, too much; now I have to deal with my sins- several decades of them- and Jesus’ death, forgiveness, etc. is going to be of limited help. Those I have sinned against say that these sins matter and life is unalterably changed by them.

I’ve grieved over these sins, and I’ve asked forgiveness many times. But I haven’t successfully repented of all of them or abandoned all of them. Again and again, some of these sins have reappeared in my life. Prayer, accountability, counsel, more prayer, good theology, tears, more prayer…..none of it has killed off these sins entirely.

Jesus may have forgiven me, but my sins have followed me. Their footprints in the lives of those I’ve sinned against are still there, and they are calling me to an accounting.

I don’t know what to do about these sins.

I can’t honestly promise that I won’t sin again. I can say that with all my heart and all my efforts I will fight to never sin in these ways again, but these are sins that are deeply wound up in my personality, my upbringing and my physical/emotional make-up. Promising to never get angry again would be very unrealistic, and talking some pietistic trash would be deceptive. Somewhere out there, this sin will reappear.

I once knew this guy….well…I’ll let him talk…

I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members.

What I’d like to ask that guy is this: Jesus may love you, but what about the people other than Jesus? The ones who can’t love you with those sins you don’t understand still on the record? What do we do for those who aren’t interested in imputation, but want accountability? Payment? Consequences? What about those who have been sinned against, but aren’t offering me the Gospel, but purgatory?

How do we take hold of the grace of God for ourselves but then deal with people who aren’t God and can’t be God? People who are going to hold us to the law for their own protection, and who won’t risk further dealings with me until guarantees of repayment and promises of no future sin are on the table?

Protestants are often faulted for having a view of “cheap grace.” Is this what “cheap grace” looks like? The forgiveness of the prodigal’s father on the one hand, and the real-world demands for repayment and improved behavior on the other?

Roman Catholics often refer to the Protestant Gospel as a “legal fiction.” Is this what they mean? A sinner enjoys forgiveness, but cannot adequately make amends, repayment or restoration for his sins against those he loves?

My sins have returned. God may have forgotten them. Other persons have not.

What do I do?

Recommendation: Beyond Smells and Bells by Mark Galli

Mark Galli: Beyond Smells and Bells: The Wonder and Power of Christian Liturgy

Well….just go buy this book. I know you plan on buying some other book about things you already know, but you need this book, because it’s absolutely a 512 foot home run on the subject of liturgy in worship, and you know how we feel about liturgy around here. Liturgy needs some love these days, and Mark Galli’s Beyond Smells and Bells is the most helpful popular treatment of the subject for evangelical you can find on the shelves anywhere.Continue reading “Recommendation: Beyond Smells and Bells by Mark Galli”

Too Much Heaven? (3): Heaven and Evangelism

I think it’s telling that the two most prolific evangelism programs in evangelicalism both approach their audience with questions that Jesus never used.

“Do you know that God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life?”

“If you were to die tonight, and God were to asked you, why should I let you into my heaven, what would be your answer?”

According to Mark, Jesus did not approach his world with a question at all, but with a proclamation.

Mark 1:14 Now after John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of God, 15 and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”

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Recommendation and Review: Surprised By Hope by N.T. Wright

UPDATE: I agree with Doug Wilson that Wright’s lefty politics is a considerably different matter than his theology in this book.

With Surprised by Hope, N.T. Wright has done several important things.

He has written perhaps his most accessible theological book on an important topic of interest to not only most Christians, but to millions of people in the general culture as well.

He has shown, with characteristic intelligence, style and persuasion, how the errors of the church’s handling of the Bible have become the errors of a culture completely confused on what Christians have to say regarding life after death.

He has, quite possibly, rescued the term “resurrection” for a whole generation of younger Christians who will read this book.Continue reading “Recommendation and Review: Surprised By Hope by N.T. Wright”

Too Much Heaven? Part 2: Heaven and Earth

UPDATE: Here’s a post that has a perfect feel for the idea of heaven that I grew up around- and that still surrounds me here in the mountains. (PHC= Pentecostal Holiness Church.)

The message of many evangelistically focused conservative Christians is about heaven: How to get there. What will heaven be like. Why heaven is our ultimate destiny. “Salvation,” in this version of Christianity, is about going to heaven. Purely and simply.

If you died tonight, would God let you into his heaven? Is your name in the book? When the rapture occurs, will you be taken or left?

At another level, however, this message has a more ambiguous, even dark, side: the rejection of the value of earthly life in favor of life in heaven. The longing for heaven can sound like a near suicidal longing to escape this world, something that would set must psychiatrists reaching for the phone.
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Too Much Heaven?

(Yes, Virginia, there’s a review of N.T. Wright’s Surprised by Hope coming very soon.)

I grew up and was formed in a version of the Christian tradition that practiced a remarkably simple form of Christianity.

It was about going to heaven.

This life was preparation for heaven. God was preparing a place called heaven with lots of mansions. People who accepted Jesus Christ as their personal savior by praying a prayer to ask him into their heart had their names written in a book reserving a place in heaven. One day, they would die (or Jesus would return) and go to heaven. Later, they would get their new bodies and live in a city described- literally- in the book of Revelation as a super-sized cube with streets of gold. In that city they would be with all their friends, relatives and Bible characters forever, where they would worship Jesus for all of eternity without illness, pain or death.Continue reading “Too Much Heaven?”

A Response to Nicki: Acceptance (3)

In my last response to commenter Nicki, I want to open up some of the difficulties that flow from her call for embracing homosexuals on the terms which they want. Nicki wrote

Until Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender persons are embraced by the Church as another part of God’s wonderful creation, they will not feel welcomed. They are unique and special and have insights and gifts to contribute to the Church.

Nicki’s appeal to the church to embrace gay, lesbian, bisexual and transexual persons within the church is a genuine and heartfelt invitation that I believe places a claim on every person who claims to know and follow the Lord of love.Continue reading “A Response to Nicki: Acceptance (3)”

A Response to Nicki (Part 2): The Bible and How We Interpret It

Nicki is a commenter at the post What Do Gays And Lesbians Hear? She made some excellent points that deserve response. I appreciate the constructive conversation, and especially the participation of gay friends.

I quote again from Nicki’s comment.

Personally, I believe the only way to understand the Bible, is to understand it in the culture and context that it was written in. The world is not flat. Women are allowed to speak and be participants in Church. We eat shrimp and shellfish. We plant more than one type of plant in a field. We wear clothes made of more than one kind of fabric ( ie. polyester). All these things were considered an abomination in the Old Testament. What was considered an abomination several thousand years ago had more to do with preserving the Jewish religion and nation than anything else. Preservation of health without refrigeration, preserving the nation through procreation, preserving ritual purity etc. were of paramount importance and influenced the law and culture.

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Responses to Nicki (1)

smallcon.jpgFirst, here’s the entire comment from Nicki I am going to be writing about over the next few posts.

Michael,

While I do appreciate your progressive attitude towards GLBT people, I still find that it sends a very patronizing and negative message to GLBT persons. “I hate the sin, but love the sinner” is almost as bad as outright hating the sinner. That attitude creates a feeling of self shame for being GLBT, which is who God created them to be. There is no free will or choice in this matter anymore than you chose to be straight.Continue reading “Responses to Nicki (1)”