Saturday Ramblings 7.31.10

Both Lexus and Majesty, the horses who have graced Saturday Ramblings these last few months, have scampered off to greener pastures. Fortunately, we have found a suitable replacement. Mr. Bones will be with us for the foreseeable future, as no one else seems to want to step to the plate. With that introduction, please welcome Mr. Bones, and enjoy this week’s Saturday Ramblings.

A church in Gainesville, Florida plans to burn copies of the Koran on September 11 from 6 to 9 pm. The National Association of Evangelicals rips this idea, as it should. Sigh…can you see why Anne Rice wants to quit being called a Christian?

How would you handle this situation: You are an American, and a missionary proclaiming the Gospel of grace in a foreign country. People in that country hate America, rightly or wrongly, and often fling insults at you for your national heritage. How do you continue to love them? Good discussion of that here.

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Anne Rice Through With Christianity

Anne Rice, the novelist best known for Interview With A Vampire, announced that she is through with Christianity.

On her Facebook site, Rice wrote this comment on Wednesday:

For those who care, and I understand if you don’t: Today I quit being a Christian. I’m out. I remain committed to Christ as always but not to being “Christian” or to being part of Christianity. It’s simply impossible for me to “belong” to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group. For ten years, I’ve tried. I’ve failed. I’m an outsider. My conscience will allow nothing else.

Five minutes later she added this:

As I said below, I quit being a Christian. I’m out. In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminst. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control. I refuse to be anti-Democrat. I refuse to be anti-secular humanist. I refuse to be anti-science. I refuse to be anti-life. In the name of Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen.

Ok. First thing is to get this woman a copy of Mere Churchianity. She could have been an endorser! Seriously, is she not hitting on so much of what Michael Spencer said on this site and in his book? What we have continued to say on this site? Rice is not saying anything new or unique. She just happens to have a very large megaphone through which to say it. If I said I was leaving Christianity, it wouldn’t merit a blip in the church bulletin. Anne Rice says the same and it is worldwide news. And, if you ask me, it is probably a good thing.

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A “Mass” of Catholics

Today’s post is from guest blogger Daniel Jepsen

One of the great things about the English language is its utter absurdity.  Foreigners trying to learn English can be forgiven for wondering if we made up some rules just to confuse them.

Take collective nouns for animals.  Instead of just calling several members of the same species as a “group” or a “bunch” (like any logical 3-year old would) we insist on calling them a herd of cows, or a litter of puppies, or a troop of monkeys.  More sophisticated speakers will talk of a pod of walrus, a band of gorillas, a string of ponies.  Some collective nouns make no sense at all: a husk of jackrabbits, a knot of toads.  The best ones combine the idea of plurality with some characteristic of the species: A wake of buzzards, a parliament of owls, or (my favorite) a lounge of lizards.Continue reading “A “Mass” of Catholics”

A Long Pause from Impermanence

By Chaplain Mike

I hope no reader will suppose that “mere” Christianity is here put forward as an alternative to the creeds of the existing communions—as if a man could adopt it in preference to Congregationalism or Greek Orthodoxy or anything else. It is more like a hall out of which doors open into several rooms. If I can bring anyone into that hall I shall have done what I attempted. But it is in the rooms, not in the hall, that there are fires and chairs and meals.

• C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

Part of the “post-evangelical wilderness” experience is a deep sense of longing to be at home.

Psalm 63 carries the heading, “A psalm of David, regarding a time when David was in the wilderness of Judah.” Wandering in the desert places left him hungry, thirsty, eager for a renewal of the vital experience of worship and fellowship he had known with his brethren in the Temple.

O God, you are my God;
I earnestly search for you.
My soul thirsts for you;
my whole body longs for you
in this parched and weary land
where there is no water.

I have seen you in your sanctuary
and gazed upon your power and glory.

• Psalm 63:1-2 (NLT)

David longed for home. There’s no place like home.Continue reading “A Long Pause from Impermanence”

The Sweat Of Our Brow

In retrospect, I probably should’ve brought the map. Footstep after footstep, one in front of the other, each one of them leading me and my pregnant wife farther astray on the hiking trail. But it was a nice summer day, overcast, not too hot, and the trails weren’t that steep. So we did our best to enjoy the natural beauty of the Ozark mountains (technically, the “foothills of the Ozarks”) and continue on our way.

The trail wound up and away from us, and eventually forked, and we came to a sign that told us how to find the Overlook, not the spot we’d been looking for, but one that would do. We continued on until the leafy curtains on either side of our trail parted to reveal a good-sized clearing, a little damp from the previous night’s rain but still welcoming to our weary selves. We made our way to a circle of benches surrounding an ashy fire-pit and sat down to rest, pray, and worship.

A few songs, prayers, and scripture readings later, Michelle and I were feeling refreshed, though unwilling to break the seal on our new little place of peace and let the real world back into our lives. We sat quietly, reveling in this quiet moment, when the rain began. Not the sudden, dam-breaking downpour you see in movies, but a gentle, steady rhythm, the kind that actually adds to peace instead of removing it.

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Defining Terms: Evangelical and Post-Evangelical

f_0025“Dispatches from the Post-Evangelical Wilderness” is the byline of this website. In recent days I have received a number of questions from readers, emailers, and Facebook friends asking me to define “post-evangelical” for them. Here’s a review of how I, Chaplain Mike, use this designation.

Michael Spencer called himself “post-evangelical,” and to clarify that he would say that he had moved past present evangelical culture to seek a “broader, deeper, and more ancient” form of Christian faith. His book further describes his journey as being from “Churchianity” to a “Jesus-shaped spirituality”. What did he mean?

On our FAQs/Rules page, you will see his answer, and my comment, to the question, “What is Post-Evangelicalism?”:

MS: I believe the way forward for evangelicalism is the way back to the roots of the broader, deeper, more ancient, more ecumenical church, not forward into more of what evangelicals have been doing the last 50 years.

CM: I heartily agree. In addition, I would say that the reason this is the way forward is that “post-evangelical” for many at ground level evokes a deep disillusionment with the culture of American evangelicalism, a sense of exile or “wandering in the wilderness” in relation to the church, and a hunger for historical rootedness, community that cannot be found in programmed settings, and participation in mission that penetrates the world with the love and truth of Jesus.

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The Store Is Open

You will notice a new ad on our home page. If you didn’t notice it, please take time to notice it now.

There. Nice, isn’t it?

We are happy to announce the opening of iMonkPublishing, a new part of the Internet Monk community. This is a place where you can buy books that we recommend or refer to in our essays. Or that commenters refer to. Or that we think you might like. Or books we think you should like if you really knew what was good for you.

We also are listing the books published by Electric Moon Publishing, the outfit that runs Internet Monk now. Most of these are fiction titles, and most are available only as eBooks, readable on the Amazon Kindle, iPod, iPad, iPhone, and other electronic devices that start with a lower case “i” and capital “P.” (For instance, check out Marshal Myers. Marshal is a 20 year old with cerebral palsy who speaks his books into existence with the assistance of a special software program. They are challenging fantasy books that take you into lands found only in Marshal’s fertile imagination. Great fun reading!)

And not just books. We will be reviewing and listing music and movies recommended by the iMonks. This is a great way for you to learn about some new tunes and new movies that are fun, encouraging and–dare I say it?–uplifting.

When you buy these and other books through iMonkPublishing, you are helping to fund the Internet Monk community. And, no, you do not pay more going through us than you would going directly to Amazon. It is always the same price.

What are you waiting for? There are books to be purchased and read. So many books, so little time. We have brought the bookstore to your laptop. The rest is up to you…

IM Recommended Reading: Who Speaks for Evangelicals?

By Chaplain Mike

An interesting piece over at Out of Ur blog by John Ortberg asks the question, “Who speaks for evangelicals today?”

This question reflects the diversity in the movement that exists under evangelicalism’s umbrella today. It wasn’t long ago, Ortberg says, that evangelicals had a sense of “relational interconnectedness” and that it was clear who their main spokespersons were.

This was the “classic evangelicalism” of the post-war era, established and led by such public icons as Billy Graham, Carl Henry, Christianity Today, Wheaton College, and the evangelical schools, faith missions, and publishing houses. But a lot has happened in a couple of generations to cause a multitude of disconnections within the movement, dividing it into various factions.

One reason is that evangelical leaders tend–like our society generally–to be more narrowly niched. Some are leaders of local churches–Bill Hybels and Rick Warren and Andy Stanley. Some work in spiritual formation–Dallas Willard, Eugene Peterson. Some of them are New Calvinists; some head up parachurch organizations (in the 1940s and 50s, this was a disproportionately large part of evangelical leadership–beginning with Billy Graham himself.) Today some are identified more generationally. Scot [McKnight] mentioned the names that his college students are highly aware of and in tune with–including Rob Bell, Brian McLaren, Shane Claiborne, and Donald Miller.

I expect another reason why the ties that bind evangelicals are becoming looser is the change in church/faith landscape. When I was growing up in the 1970s, a large part of evangelical identity was who we were not: we weren’t Catholic and we certainly weren’t mainline, liberal, establishment, pipe-smoking, sherry-drinking, hush-puppy wearers.

But those distinctions are no longer quite so clear. Some Catholics are quite evangelical. And the mainline is no longer the adversary it used to be.

As we move past the first decade of the 21st century, is it more proper to speak of evangelical “movements” rather than a “movement”? Evangelicalism has always tolerated its share of diversity, but now it seems that the various factions have moved out from under the big tent to go their own entrepreneurial way, and when they do communicate, they spend more time debating one another than they do with speaking into American society with a common voice that represents a united mission.

Of course, this factionalism has been accelerated by advances in technology, which exercises a relentless centrifugal force on unity and community of all kinds. Anyone can start a blog now and with enough followers, a new element of theological diversity emerges. And any spark of disagreement quickly gets blown into a wildfire. The recent blogosphere buzz over John Piper inviting Rick Warren to speak a a conference is but one example.

Perhaps the work of someone like John H. Armstrong and his book, Your Church Is Too Small, which calls for relational and missional unity around a credal orthodoxy is needed more than ever in our day. Can the Gospel-believing church ever hope to meet the challenges of fulfilling the Missio Dei in today’s world if we aren’t:

...of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose; do[ing] nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard[ing] one another as more important than [ourselves]; looking out not merely for [our] own personal interests, but also for the interests of others? (Philippians 2:2-4)

Unity in faith and mission may well be the greatest challenge of this century for followers of Christ. Otherwise it may come down to every man for himself. And who will speak for Christ to a lost and dying world?

Should Christians Covet Poverty?

Some American Christians sentimentalize poverty.  They long for it as a simpler, more holy lifestyle.  They read accounts of praise-filled believers in far countries who barely have enough to eat or a roof over their heads, and they wonder if maybe poverty is a helpful or even necessary condition for the Christian life.  Jesus did tell the rich young ruler to give away everything and follow him.  If we’re not doing that, maybe we’re not in a right relationship with God.  Should we covet poverty?

Well, let’s consider what poverty really is.  I don’t mean income below the poverty line, because that varies from place to place.  I also don’t mean voluntary simplicity, which is another topic entirely.  My working definition of poverty is “Want imposed by habit and circumstance, resulting in needs that cannot be met.”   We’ll look at poverty to see if it‘s something we should covet.  We’ll consider whether those in poverty have been led by their circumstances to exemplify true Christian faith.  Then we’ll see what we can find out about necessary conditions for the Christian life.Continue reading “Should Christians Covet Poverty?”

American Patriotic Christianity: A Canadian Perspective

©2009 GospelGifsBy Michael Bell

This past month we celebrated both Canada Day on July 1st, and Independence Day on July 4th. This inspired some thoughts about getting some Canadian perspectives on “American Patriotic Christianity”. As I am the lone Canadian writer at Internet Monk, I gathered up seven of my Canadian, primarily “unchurched” friends, to get their perspective on the topic. A couple of friends, for personal reasons, asked not to be identified, so I have chosen to refer to all by their initials.

Many of you will find the discussion below stereotypical and offensive. Others may find it enlightening. I would ask that you persevere to the end. After interacting with some of their ideas, I will conclude with some thoughts about the Canadian Church, and how it is impacted by American Christianity.

To get a completely different perspective, from someone who has spent decades interacting with both Canadian and American Christians, I would suggest you read this article.

Now, take a moment, sit in on our discussion, and let us know what you think.Continue reading “American Patriotic Christianity: A Canadian Perspective”